Trading Bruce Next For Mets

The agreement with Yoenis Cespedes triggered the Mets’ willingness – perhaps eagerness – to deal Jay Bruce.

The three-time All-Star is 29 and will be making $13 million this year, all easily digestible numbers. Word is Toronto, which figures to lose both Jose Bautista and Edwin Encarnacion, is interested. Reportedly, Bruce nearly landed in Toronto last year, but the deal fell through.

BRUCE: Toronto bound? (AP)

BRUCE: Toronto bound? (AP)

Several media outlets report the Mets and Blue Jays have spoken, giving legs to the possibility of a trade.

What’s not known is what the Mets are asking for Bruce. Do they want major-league ready talent or prospects? Mets GM Sandy Alderson has a reputation for being a tough negotiator in trade talks, and you’ll recall when the Mets traded R.A. Dickey to Toronto for Noah Syndergaard.

The Blue Jays have to be wary of dealing with Alderson. How can they not be?

What could derail a trade is if the Blue Jays signed Dexter Fowler, who played for the Cubs last season. It is not known if the Blue Jays have any interest in Curtis Granderson, whom the Mets are also reportedly willing to deal.

There’s a lot of stuff flying around this time of year, but the most ridiculous thing I’ve read has the Mets trading Travis d’Arnaud (presumably in a package including Bruce) back to Toronto for catcher Russell Martin.

While Martin would be interesting for a team needing that one catching piece, would the Mets really be interesting in taking on the 33-year-old catcher’s contract that pays $20 million for the next three years? Even if they shed Bruce’s salary, the Mets would choke on Russell’s contract.

8 thoughts on “Trading Bruce Next For Mets

  1. That Martin rumor piques my interest. Sure, you’re not going to want to pay him $20 million a year for the next three seasons. If the Mets include enough talent as mentioned, that number should get knocked down a few million by Toronto. Then we’re talking.

    Say what you want about Martin, but he plays for winners. He’s a solid catcher with a solid bat. You don’t need him to post an all star OPS, you need him to perform at a decent level. Good catching is expensive because it’s rare. I know he declined in 2016, but I would be all over that kind of trade. He has pop, he gets on base at a decent clip, plays good defense, and he’s played in New York before. In the right scenario, I’m pursuing this.

    Will it happen? Not likely. The Mets just laid out a truck full of money for Yo. But maybe they mean business.

  2. As much as we all love Grandy (and his quiet leadership) maybe we need to ship him out while he still has some value and take our chances with a much younger Bruce and hope he can keep producing 30-plus homer seasons and drive in the runs Grandy could not from the lead off spot. Sandy and the Mets have options here. The Cespedes signing helps big time. Now let’s see how he fills the holes around him. My opinion is to put Yo and Bruce at the corners and platoon Conforto and Lagares and see if either wins the job outright or stick with the platoon until Conforto matures. Let Duda play and see how his back responds. Walker, Cabrera up the middle with Reyes and Wright handling third. Keep TJ and Flores off the bench and capable of filling in at any of the infield positions. Now Sandy can focus on relief pitching and a catcher. The relievers may be easier to find than a backstop unless he really wants to package prospects. Don’t see that happening and we’ll be stuck with Travis and a platoon with Rivera (unless he can find a better back up option – and please, do NOT let it be Kevin Plawecki!!!). A few solid moves – and a healthy rotation – will be all the difference in getting better than the Nat’s. Right now, on paper and if healthy, it’s close, but advantage Nationals. We still gotta get better this Winter.

    • The way things are trending, I don’t think Reyes will be sharing third base with anyone as long as he’s healthy. David Wright is going to have to learn first (if he can) and platoon with Duda. It’s the best case scenario for player and team. David has a degenerative back condition *AND* neck fusion, which are said to be unrelated. Very rarely does a player have both of these conditions and return to every day play. Fielder just retired after his second neck fusion procedure. That’s the road we’re going down with David, sad as it is.

      Even if David’s healthy, Reyes has to bat leadoff every day anyway. So that makes it even more important for Wright to shift across the field if he can.

      • The team needs to find a way to get its younger players time ; Juan, Mike, Wilmer, etc deserve regular playing time to improve the team.

        When healthy Juan is by far our best outfielder. He has shown glimpses that his bat is MLB avg. Mike in his freshman year showed us he can be a dynamic hitter and his defense is better than projected from his minor league career. Wilmer has many defensive liabilities that prevent him from ever being a good infielder, but last year showed his bat may have matured to the point that this team needs to find him playing time.

        Our Achilles heel is hitting. We have the pitching our defense is generally weak, but this team will make noise or not depending on how well we hit. If Mike hits like last year, Travis hits like last year, if Luke doesn’t get his thirty and stop striking out every time he comes to bat we will have problems.

        We need conforto to adjust to the pitchers, we need Travis to get healthy and hit again, we need Bruce to be the player we traded for or for Mike to force him out of the lineup.

        I am curious about our offseason priorities and hope it is not centered on the crapshoot that is relievers and we do not try and get faster, try get more players who can play multiple positions. We need competition. 2 years ago when we got the 3 position players around the all star break not only did we get the power and hitting of yeonis but got flexibility and competition from the other two that allowed to sit players who were not hitting or fielding.

  3. One of Grandy or Bruce needs to go and bring back some young talent.

    I would rather trade Bruce but if Bruce is the one we keep and he fails in NY again we have 2 younger hopefully better OF who can play. Certainly Brandon and Mike play better defense and hopefully they hit at least as good as the low 200’s with no pop we saw from Bruce.

    • I would much prefer to move Bruce. Much, much prefer. But it’s not a shock that Granderson is cultivating more interest. They’ll have to make the trade that brings the best possible return.

      But honestly, even if I moved Grandy, I’d still try to move Bruce. We have left handed hitters on the way and if the bullpen & lineup depth can be improved dramatically with a series of moves, then that should be pursued.

  4. Agree the Russell rumor does not really make much sense. RM can probably put up (15 & 60) tops! From what I recall, he might be an above average defensive C. On scale of 1-10, i would call around a 7.0. our group of C’s last year would lower, ;maybe a 4.5 ? The fact that RM is 33 yrs old and plays the most physically demanding position, means he is not going to be putting up 550 AB’s playing 135 games /yr for the next 3 seasons. He wont be dh’ing for us as he could in toronto. pretty soon his 15/60 will become 10/40, etc..
    Who wants to trade (35/100) for (15/60), when the 20/60 costs an additional $7m?? And we have to add more to our pkg? Bruce didnt produce in NY last year, but he still reach 99 rbi’s. in cinci he was on pace for much higher #’s… point is this team does not produce HR hitters. last one was DW, and DM may be one also now. We want trade a legit HR hitter for a slightly above old C? other suggestions talk about trading him for a bullpen PIECE. seriously? I would trade DW for a good reliever, only b/c you cant expect much from him going forward.. but not a legit 35 HR guy…. He is not a YC who can single handedly carry a team, on the other if they both end up with 35 HR’s why is JB at less than half the salary of YC, looked as a table scrap ?

  5. Agree the Russell rumor does not really make much sense. RM can probably put up (15 & 60) tops! From what I recall, he might be an above average defensive C. On scale of 1-10, i would call around a 7.0. our group of C’s last year would lower, ;maybe a 4.5 ? The fact that RM is 33 yrs old and plays the most physically demanding position, means he is not going to be putting up 550 AB’s playing 135 games /yr for the next 3 seasons. He wont be dh’ing for us as he could in toronto. pretty soon his 15/60 will become 10/40, etc..
    Who wants to trade (35/100) for (15/60), when the 20/60 costs an additional $7m?? And we have to add more to our pkg? Bruce didnt produce in NY last year, but he still reach 99 rbi’s. in cinci he was on pace for much higher #’s… point is this team does not produce HR hitters. last one was DW, and DM may be one also now. We want trade a legit HR hitter for a slightly above old C? other suggestions talk about trading him for a bullpen PIECE. seriously? I would trade DW for a good reliever, only b/c you cant expect much from him going forward.. but not a legit 35 HR guy…. He is not a YC who can single handedly carry a team, on the other if they both end up with 35 HR’s why is JB at less than half the salary of YC, looked as a table scrap ?