If Mets Want Terry Collins Back They Should Make Move Immediately

The New York Mets already know their plans for manager Terry Collins moving forward. Any meetings this week in Cincinnati between Collins and GM Sandy Alderson is for show. The Mets know if they want to retain Collins – indications are they do – and should have already expressed their intent regarding years and money to him.

It would be ridiculous if they have not.

Alderson (L) should not delay in making Collins (R) announcement.

Alderson (L) should not delay in making Collins (R) announcement.

Based on Collins’ job with little talent the past three years, and glut of injuries the past two summers, he merits an opportunity to stay on to benefit from the fruits of their upcoming winter spending.

From his perspective, Collins should know what he wants to do, and probably knows he’s not a hot ticket and likely wouldn’t hear the phone ring too often if he didn’t return to the Mets. He should also know is response should be a “no thank you,” if the offer is for one year.

If the Mets don’t want Collins, they must consider the pool of available managers and realize they won’t pay a loaded contract to Tony La Russa or Jim Leyland, if the latter would leave the Tigers. It’s been suggested the Mets want a “yes man,” and if that’s Collins, so be it.

Quite simply, the Mets can’t afford a maverick, and Alderson probably doesn’t want to work with one.

Ron Gardenhire’s contract expires after this season, but based on media reports, there’s no reason to believe the Minnesota won’t get an extension from general manager Terry Ryan. The Twins have had an awful few years after an impressive run. The Twins are about doing things on a tight budget, which would make him perfect for the Mets.

However, the Twins are also about consistency, which explains their run of success with Gardenhire.

If not Gardenhire, my choices would be either Charlie Manuel, who got a raw deal in Philadelphia, or going through another era of Davey Johnson, who clearly does not want to retire from the Washington Nationals. Johnson, of course, won’t come cheaply.

Please, let’s not hear anything about being too old. Both are sharp and still have considerable to teach and fire left in the tank.

However, since neither would happen we’re back to Collins.

For all the talk about the Mets being a big-market club, they really aren’t in their mentality and actions.

This is especially evident in their off-season spending habits and that in the 13 seasons since their 2000 World Series appearance, they have had four general managers and five managers. That’s a little over three years average per general manager and roughly 2.5 years per manager.

There’s no stability in that, and considering Collins knew most of these players from his time in the Mets’ minor league system, he comes off as the best choice.

They are building a foundation and culture with Collins, who stuck with the Mets in the bad times, and now deserves to stay with the future looking promising.

There’s no reason to delay announcing Collins’ extension.

Normally, I’d say the last day of the season, but that’s reserved for Mike Piazza. The Mets should make the announcement prior to the first game of the Milwaukee series, and if not, the day after the season ends.

There’s no reasonable explanation for not making an immediate announcement, because by now both sides should know their thinking.

A delay gives the perception of confusion and indecision, and haven’t the Mets had enough of that label?

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16 thoughts on “If Mets Want Terry Collins Back They Should Make Move Immediately

  1. You make a good point about consistency. Both GM and managers have not been good to us in a while. The team mostly seems to play for Terry and if they are not going to get someone who is judged to be in a different class they should just bring him back on a 2 year deal and get on with finding and promoting players who can help us win.

  2. Yes, he’s had a roster filled with AAAA players and more than his fair share of injuries. However, I pose this question whenever the topic arises and have yet to get an answer…name me one relatively young offensive player who has flourished under this player development guru since he’s been in charge of making out the lineup? (the sound of crickets)

    On the other side of the ledger, you can talk about giving his rookies no protection in the batting order (and not even playing them unless he has absolutely no other alternative), his bullpen management, his disdain for bunting, his lifeless demeanor (from someone described as fiery who brings all of the passion of Art Howe to the job), and his bully mentality for allegedly teaching players a lesson (but never letting them redeem themselves).

    Could Tim Teufel be any worse? Pedro Lopez? I know they won’t go the Backman route because he’s too spirited to simply say, “Thank you, Sir. May I have another?”

  3. I think Collins is a reasonable choice. But I would like to get some youngish manager they can groom and put in place for a decade or so. But I don’t know who is available.. You also pretty much need someone who understands media and fan relations.

    • Dan Gurney: I don’t know who the next manager could be that fits the description of a young guy. I think they don’t want to deal with Wally Backman as to eliminate the drama whenever the Mets lose three in a row.-JD

  4. Lack of talent to work with or no, Collins has made the same boneheaded moves over and over and I think his strategy stinks. Why does he always try a sac bunt as soon as he gets someone on base? Hasn’t he ever heard of a “hit and run”? Better to have runners on first and third and no outs than a runner on second with an out that we just gave away. Plus, doing the same thing time and time again allows the defense to know in advance what he is going to do.

    No, time to let “Joe Maddon Lite” walk.

    • Met Fan 4 Life: Thanks so much for your comment. I appreciate the visit and hope to see you again. As promised, I will try to answer everything:

      1) Too late for that. I think he’s coming back. If they let him go, who would they bring in?
      2) Can’t agree to that until after this winter. Before Alderson came in their payroll was close to $140 million. They have spent, just not wisely.
      3) Agree 100 percent.
      4) Adding a veteran pitcher is a must, regardless of what happens with Harvey.
      5) Yes, the interesting part of the season ended with Harvey. They were smart to shut down Wheeler when they did.
      6) Things are rather fragile.
      7) Agreed.
      8) Agreed.
      9) Always need a closer. Parnell was one of the bright spots this year.
      10) Agreed, and have written that.
      11) Platooning shows some weaknesses. Some managers, like Gil Hodges in 1969 are able to pull it off.
      12) Yes, Young is a puzzle. But, the element of speed has been lacking. Everybody wants to trade Murphy, but I like him. I don’t believe he hits for enough power to play first base.

      Again, thanks for you comment.-JD

  5. The question I have is ….Will free agents want to sign with the Mets if Terry Collins is the manager or would they rather play for somebody else.

    • sebastian: I don’t think it matters. Any FA thinking about the Mets is thinking first about the dollars. What else is there? If the Mets were a contender, the manager might matter. As it is now, I don’t think it carries much weight.-JD