May 11.10: Chat Room, Game #33 vs. Nationals: Trying to jumpstart offense against Olson.

The Mets will be trying to get their offense on track tonight against the Washington Nationals as they seek to break a two-game home losing streak.

Jon Niese (1-1, 3.60) goes against the Nationals’ Scott Olson in a duel of left-handers. Niese coming off a no-decision in his last start when he gave up four runs and a career-high 12 hits in six innings last Wednesday in an extra-inning loss at Cincinnati.

Niese is 0-2 with a 3.79 ERA in seven starts at Citi Field, but has never faced Washington.

The Mets have given Niese 28 runs in his six starts, but 15 came in two of them so they’ve been all or nothing with him.

The Mets’ stagnant offense of late will try to get it going against a familiar patsy in Olson, who after his first career win against them has lost six straight with a 5.22 ERA in nine starts.

Here’s tonight’s line-up

Angel Pagan, CF
Luis Castillo, 2B
Jose Reyes, SS
Jason Bay, LF
David Wright, 3B
Ike Davis, 1B
Jeff Francoeur, RF
Rod Barajas, C
Jon Niese, LP

NOTE: I have class tonight and will be gone until nine. I hope you stop by and post to keep the room moving until then. Thanks. John

40 thoughts on “May 11.10: Chat Room, Game #33 vs. Nationals: Trying to jumpstart offense against Olson.

  1. I find it funny that the last 2 years he screwed around with the lineup every other game\ even when he found a winning combination.
    now he’s cleanup batter has yet to clean up. and he hasnt moved anyone out of position..
    oh well… we will see where this gets us.
    BTW liydmouths on pre game just mentioned the current lineup has given us 25 strikeouts and 22 times men left on base.

  2. FIFTH INNING: Bases loaded with one out. Chance to get back in it. Mets have always done well against Olson. Here’s their shot.-JD

  3. Hey, JD. Just got back to the game. Was hoping we could make up the 3-0 deficit, but now it’s 6-1.

  4. SIXTH INNING: Always like to see Wright go the other way. When he does that he’s seeing the ball better and that will eventually translate into driving the ball.-JD

  5. In 2006 no matter how many runs we were back, no matter how late in the game I always felt like we had a chance.

  6. Omaha (8): I had that feeling, too. Had it in early 2007, also. But haven’t had it since. There’s a listlessness about the offense now. Even worse without Beltran and Delgado. Bay has been a disappointment so far and Francoeur has done nothing lately.-JD

  7. Well, so far Bay is 2 for 3 on the night and Frenchy has both RBIs. They have to break out sooner or later (right???) and maybe tonight is it.

  8. SEVENTH INNING: You can’t say the Mets haven’t had their chances. They’ve had the leadoff hitter on most of the night.-JD

  9. Gotta get the W. A great comeback that we don’t want to classify as “moral victory.” We need the real victory.

  10. what does it say that you intentionally walk jose who is not tearing the ball up to get to your cleanup hitter with the bases loaded?

  11. JD (22) Let’s send a bouquet to Bruney and Clippard.

    Need Frankie to close it out now.

  12. You don’t know where the season will take us, but this could be a watershed moment. Down by five and at one time 1-for-12 with RISP, something just clicked in the eighth inning and the exuberance of Davis going over the railing speaks volumes about the attitude of this team.-JD

  13. why is it that on this team at least it is not the veterans that are leading the team, but the young guys who for one reason or another are thrust in the role and leading the team?

  14. A QUICK WRAP/Game #33

    FINAL: Mets 8, Nationals 6.
    RECORD: 18-15.
    THUMBNAIL ANALYSIS: It took awhile, but the offense finally woke up and erased a 6-1 deficit with a six-run eighth inning for the biggest comeback of the season.
    ON THE MOUND: Another short start, with Jon Niese giving up six runs on six hits and five walks in 4 1/3 innings in an Ollie-like performance.
    AT THE PLATE: Jason Bay and David Wright broke out of funks with three hits apiece. … Rod Barajas’ two-run double highlighted the eighth. … Chris Carter made his Mets’ debut with a pinch-RBI double in the eighth.
    IN THE FIELD: Ike Davis went over the railing again in the ninth.
    LOOKING AHEAD: Mike Pelfrey starts tomorrow afternoon against Washington. -JD

  15. dave (30): The new guys exorcise the demons of 2007, 2008, 2009, plus that big fat demon Wainwright curveball in 2006.

  16. (29)The attitude of this team is reflected through Davis going over the railing? I thought we were talking stubborn and unable to admit defeat?

  17. Glad they won! I only watched up to the 3rd inning. Had other things on my mind.

    33. Tiffany we are talking about manuel unable to admit defeat. For the most part the players are playing.. its the direction they are NOT given that is at the heart of the matter.

  18. (34) Oh, I get it. When the team loses, it’s because Manuel is stubborn and has trouble admitting defeat; but, when the team wins, it’s all about the players. That clarifies it for me. Thanks.

  19. I noticed you only read into people’s statements what you want to see.
    plain and simple..
    over managing is seen very easily and we have all seen jerry do it.

    the team play is the team play once they are on the field the onus of winning on them.

    the lineup and the rotation is on jerry.. as well as pinch hitters/runners/relievers.

    that’s all i am saying..
    ;-)

  20. (36) Nonsense. Shall we go back to yesterday afternoon and read the comments posted here about Jerry? Yet, when his team wins, it’s about the direction the players “are not given”? Don’t let your hatred of Jerry get in the way of a good argument, though.

    Overmanaging is seen very easily by whom? Do you really claim to know why Jerry uses a certain player in a given situation?

    Perhaps — and hold onto your hat for this one — Jerry knows something that you don’t. His players are diving over railings for him. Do you really think that you know more about that relationship than what is being communicated via their attitude? If so, please — share it with us the posters on the John Delcos New York Mets Report. Enlighten us as to what you know about Jerry’s interpersonal skills with his players.

  21. they dive over railings for the team and the game and maybe to keep their spot. they just saw him DFA Joe C.

    i only see his managing as it pertains to taking picthers out when it isnt necessary and the line up.

    and the waste of pitchers .that you yourself I believe had issue with.. no?

    listen .. you like jerry and ths fine. i dont. i think its great the team is playing. but i give the credit of the ball play to the players.. as it should be..

  22. (38) Yeah, that’s it. These players — you know, the millionaires with guaranteed contracts while the guys from Tata are stealing your livelihood — are fighting to keep their spots. It should also be noted that Frank C. (I’m presuming we’re not talking about Joe C. Meriweather here) is no worse off right now: He might have nowhere to go tomorrow, but he’s still getting paid his full salary.

    While I’m glad you see managing as nothing more than filling out lineup cards and changing pitchers, I believe it’s far more complex than that, especially when you consider the motivation of players with guaranteed, multi-year contracts who, quite often, wield more power with the front office than the manager himself. I believe a major part of the manager’s job is the tone he sets and the confidence he instills in his players. Ray Knight will tell you that his 1986 was possible because Davey stuck with him in 1985 when everyone, including Frank Cashen, wanted to release him; conversely, Hubie Brooks, who thrived as a rookie under Joe Torre, will admit to regressing when playing for a manager (Bamberger) who didn’t have confidence in him. Go take a look at some of the lineups Bobby Cox has won with and then tell me managing is only about filling out lineup cards and making pitching changes.

    As for the use of multiple relievers in one inning, yes, I have objected to that — but I do so with the acknowledgment that my differences with Jerry on this could very well be a product of him knowing something I don’t know. In other words, I object to it — but I’m not labeling him as stubborn or saying he can’t admit defeat or questioning his competency. I don’t agree with it — and I leave it at that.

    Back in (36) you accused me of reading into other people’s statements, yet in (38) you’re asserting “you like Jerry.” Pot, kettle, black. I’d posit that you have no idea whether I like Jerry, as I’ve never announced this. (But don’t let that stop you from reading what you want into other people’s statements, right?) Don’t misinterpret my disciplined criticism of Jerry to be my “liking” of him. When he does something worthy of my criticism, he will justifiably receive it.

  23. so since i believe he has done something to justify my criticism its me being a mindless fan.
    As for tata you know an aweful lot about the organization.
    and yes I meant Frank. sorry but i have had a very bad week. and well people make mistakes. I myself am not a huge numbers person i believe in looking at how a player conducts himself on the field. regardless of the numbers.
    But whatever..
    we disagree thats fine. but you will defend you point of view regardless.
    Fine. Jerry is wonderful the team has turned around because of his glorious managing…
    i am done with this part of the thread… all said is. my belief because of Manuel’s inconsistency the players are playing for themselves not him,. MY perception. end of story.