Comments on: Feb. 4.10: What swagger? http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/ Featuring Mets' commentary, analysis and news. Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:22:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tiffany http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37508 Tiffany Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:09:37 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37508 (27) And I seem to remember Billy North brawling with Reggie on those Championship A's teams. (27) And I seem to remember Billy North brawling with Reggie on those Championship A’s teams.

]]> By: Harry Chiti http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37507 Harry Chiti Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:38:44 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37507 25. Actually David Lennon and you are wrong about a winning team not having bad chemistry. The Yankees with Munson/Jackson/Martin had about as bad a chemistry as a team could ever have. They still got the rings. 25. Actually David Lennon and you are wrong about a winning team not having bad chemistry. The Yankees with Munson/Jackson/Martin had about as bad a chemistry as a team could ever have. They still got the rings.

]]> By: Ed in Westchester http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37506 Ed in Westchester Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:05:10 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37506 And when the Mets did have a good season in 2006, and had some swagger, there were many fans who hated it. You can't have it both ways folks. And when the Mets did have a good season in 2006, and had some swagger, there were many fans who hated it.
You can’t have it both ways folks.

]]> By: Ed in Westchester http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37505 Ed in Westchester Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:00:12 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37505 Swagger is like chemistry. And like David Lennon said on Hot Stove on SNY last night, he's never seen a winning team with bad chemistry, or a losing team with good chemistry. As for Cliffy, to call him a good leader is a bit of a joke. This is the same guy who said "I do not see any light at the end of the tunnel". That to me is not a leader. The media guys love Cliffy because he was good for quotes. That does not mean he is a good leader. Oh, he had DW carry his bags. That taught DW to know his role. BS. That's childish crap. Would anyone call Billy Wagner a leader for making Joe Smith carry a Hellp Kitty backpack? No. Because Big Mouth Billy was not a leader, since he tended to bash his teammates. A team can only have swagger when they win. Look at how fans and the media turned on the Jets when they were losing in the middle of the season but still talking. How can the Mets have swagger when they are losing? It's silly. Swagger is like chemistry.
And like David Lennon said on Hot Stove on SNY last night, he’s never seen a winning team with bad chemistry, or a losing team with good chemistry.

As for Cliffy, to call him a good leader is a bit of a joke. This is the same guy who said “I do not see any light at the end of the tunnel”.
That to me is not a leader.
The media guys love Cliffy because he was good for quotes. That does not mean he is a good leader.
Oh, he had DW carry his bags. That taught DW to know his role. BS. That’s childish crap. Would anyone call Billy Wagner a leader for making Joe Smith carry a Hellp Kitty backpack? No. Because Big Mouth Billy was not a leader, since he tended to bash his teammates.
A team can only have swagger when they win. Look at how fans and the media turned on the Jets when they were losing in the middle of the season but still talking.
How can the Mets have swagger when they are losing? It’s silly.

]]> By: Tiffany http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37504 Tiffany Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:25:28 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37504 (23) According to legend, there was some confusion when the Indians were sold in the early 1970s, I believe, to Stouffer Foods. Apparently, the owners had been negotiating simultaneously with a group headed by a local shipbuilder, who believed he had won out and gotten the team. Not to be kept down, that shipbuilder took his marbles and went 500 miles east to E. 161 Street. Imagine how different things might be today had he succeeded in his attempt to purchase the Indians. (23) According to legend, there was some confusion when the Indians were sold in the early 1970s, I believe, to Stouffer Foods. Apparently, the owners had been negotiating simultaneously with a group headed by a local shipbuilder, who believed he had won out and gotten the team. Not to be kept down, that shipbuilder took his marbles and went 500 miles east to E. 161 Street. Imagine how different things might be today had he succeeded in his attempt to purchase the Indians.

]]> By: Harry Chiti http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37501 Harry Chiti Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:38:21 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37501 We are all pretty close to the same page as far as the Wilpons and the front office are concerned. Maybe if Mario Lemioux and his multi billionaire partners can't buy the Pirates they'll buy the Mets. They turned the Penguins from bankruptcy to the championship. Salary cap helped but they are also fan friendly and community friendly. Willie gets the blame for bad decisions when he was the man, but I'd take him over Jerry. That, of course, isn't an endorsement of Willie. We are all pretty close to the same page as far as the Wilpons and the front office are concerned. Maybe if Mario Lemioux and his multi billionaire partners can’t buy the Pirates they’ll buy the Mets. They turned the Penguins from bankruptcy to the championship. Salary cap helped but they are also fan friendly and community friendly.
Willie gets the blame for bad decisions when he was the man, but I’d take him over Jerry. That, of course, isn’t an endorsement of Willie.

]]> By: Steve The Original http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37499 Steve The Original Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:50:01 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37499 (21) I much prefer the horses head in their beds. That should work. lol (21) I much prefer the horses head in their beds. That should work. lol

]]> By: Ray Sadecki http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37498 Ray Sadecki Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:43:25 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37498 20. I know. And none of the GMs got another gm job except for duke who lasted a year with the orioles. One thing is for sure. The writers are sharpening thier knives. I havent seen this much bad press since the seaver deal. Our only hope is wilpons need to sell the team. a few years isnt enough. We make them an offer they cant refuse. Sell the team or we dont come to your ballpark no more. 20. I know. And none of the GMs got another gm job except for duke who lasted a year with the orioles. One thing is for sure. The writers are sharpening thier knives. I havent seen this much bad press since the seaver deal. Our only hope is wilpons need to sell the team. a few years isnt enough. We make them an offer they cant refuse. Sell the team or we dont come to your ballpark no more.

]]> By: Steve The Original http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37497 Steve The Original Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:32:25 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37497 (17) Think about it Ray, what GM on this team hasn't been home grown since 1980? Cashen/Harazin/McIlvaine/Phillips/Duquette/Minaya...all were part of the Met "family." They need a guy like Scheurholz or Gillick or if you want to remain in the "family," then Terry Ryan of the Twins to take over. A new voice...a new direction. But if Jeffy is in charge that will never happen. I wish he would do something that would get him suspended from baseball for a few years. It worked for the Yankees who if Steinbrenner had never been suspended might never have become the "dynasty" of the late 90's and most of the decade. (17) Think about it Ray, what GM on this team hasn’t been home grown since 1980? Cashen/Harazin/McIlvaine/Phillips/Duquette/Minaya…all were part of the Met “family.” They need a guy like Scheurholz or Gillick or if you want to remain in the “family,” then Terry Ryan of the Twins to take over. A new voice…a new direction. But if Jeffy is in charge that will never happen. I wish he would do something that would get him suspended from baseball for a few years. It worked for the Yankees who if Steinbrenner had never been suspended might never have become the “dynasty” of the late 90’s and most of the decade.

]]> By: Steve The Original http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2010/02/04/what-swagger/#comment-37496 Steve The Original Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:27:39 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4808#comment-37496 (18) True. But since I figured his "Stupid bench coach" at the time was Jerry Manuel, I figured it would be appropriate. You can use a Godfather reference for just about anything..lol (18) True. But since I figured his “Stupid bench coach” at the time was Jerry Manuel, I figured it would be appropriate. You can use a Godfather reference for just about anything..lol

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