Comments on: Dec. 30.09: I must admit. http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/ Featuring Mets' commentary, analysis and news. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:25:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: dave http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36290 dave Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:38:10 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36290 39 from your link “I didn’t get a chance to see him play. When I got a chance to go down to Port St. Lucie, we’d moved him to Binghamton. At that time, he was a prospect as more of a fifth-outfielder guy,” said Phillips. “We thought he was an extra outfielder guy. But he just kept getting better.” so they traded him without knowing him. at the time in omars org he had started to break out as well as in the mets system. the gm never saw him so had no first hand impression and included him in a throw away trade for whoever those guys were. my point is we had him and presumably could have had him for the last 7. 39

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“I didn’t get a chance to see him play. When I got a chance to go down to Port St. Lucie, we’d moved him to Binghamton. At that time, he was a prospect as more of a fifth-outfielder guy,” said Phillips. “We thought he was an extra outfielder guy. But he just kept getting better.”

so they traded him without knowing him.

at the time in omars org he had started to break out as well as in the mets system.

the gm never saw him so had no first hand impression and included him in a throw away trade for whoever those guys were.

my point is we had him and presumably could have had him for the last 7.

]]> By: John Delcos http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36283 John Delcos Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:19:42 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36283 Steve (40): Sure enough, but all he needs is to find a GM not in his right mind. Somebody gave Oliver Perez $36 million over three years. Omar isn't the only one to hand out bad deals.-JD Steve (40): Sure enough, but all he needs is to find a GM not in his right mind. Somebody gave Oliver Perez $36 million over three years. Omar isn’t the only one to hand out bad deals.-JD

]]> By: Steve The Original http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36279 Steve The Original Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:38 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36279 JD: No GM in their right mind is giving Joel Piniero a 4 year 60 million dollar contract. JD: No GM in their right mind is giving Joel Piniero a 4 year 60 million dollar contract.

]]> By: Steve The Original http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36278 Steve The Original Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:24:12 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36278 (36) It's questionable if he was a "rising major leaguer" at that time. He rose in the Mets eyes from nothing to a possible 4th OF. Here is a good link that contains an interview with Steve Phillips about the trade. http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/alex-speier/2009/12/29/life-comes-full-circle-jason-bay-mets (36) It’s questionable if he was a “rising major leaguer” at that time. He rose in the Mets eyes from nothing to a possible 4th OF. Here is a good link that contains an interview with Steve Phillips about the trade.

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/alex-speier/2009/12/29/life-comes-full-circle-jason-bay-mets

]]> By: Harry Chiti http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36274 Harry Chiti Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:29:48 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36274 34. I just came back from hospital.. All it was was a body shock from agreement. 34. I just came back from hospital.. All it was was a body shock from agreement.

]]> By: Ray Sadecki http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36272 Ray Sadecki Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:32:29 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36272 John, you were wrong. just admit it withoout the demonstrations you will look the better for it. John, you were wrong. just admit it withoout the demonstrations you will look the better for it.

]]> By: dave http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36271 dave Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:21:16 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36271 apparently we had this guy before courtesy of our gm. And so, the Mets dealt Bay — along with left-hander Bobby Jones and minor-leaguer Josh Reynolds — to the Padres in exchange for starter Jason Middlebrook and reliever Steve Reed. Bay’s inclusion in a deal was not something that gave Phillips any pause. my question is who are these guys we got for what at the time was a rising minor leaguer. apparently we had this guy before courtesy of our gm.

And so, the Mets dealt Bay — along with left-hander Bobby Jones and minor-leaguer Josh Reynolds — to the Padres in exchange for starter Jason Middlebrook and reliever Steve Reed. Bay’s inclusion in a deal was not something that gave Phillips any pause.

my question is who are these guys we got for what at the time was a rising minor leaguer.

]]> By: dave http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36270 dave Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:02:14 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36270 just came across this. no wonder ppl have doubts about fmart. In 2009, Davis played in 114 games, Martinez has never surpassed 86 in the minor-league season. In 2009, Davis hit 20 home runs, Martinez, who hit nine, has never surpassed 10 in a season. no matter what the mets do. this guy needs to play one year in the minors. he needs to actually go through a season. he seems to have a lot of rough edges. in the little time he spent in queens he did ok. but there was nothing in his fielding that looked above avg. and as expected he was overmatched at the plate. if nothing else he needs it for his confidence. that he can hit a rough patch and get through it. to see breaking balls and figure out what to do with them. just came across this.

no wonder ppl have doubts about fmart.

In 2009, Davis played in 114 games, Martinez has never surpassed 86 in the minor-league season. In 2009, Davis hit 20 home runs, Martinez, who hit nine, has never surpassed 10 in a season.

no matter what the mets do. this guy needs to play one year in the minors. he needs to actually go through a season. he seems to have a lot of rough edges. in the little time he spent in queens he did ok. but there was nothing in his fielding that looked above avg. and as expected he was overmatched at the plate.

if nothing else he needs it for his confidence. that he can hit a rough patch and get through it. to see breaking balls and figure out what to do with them.

]]> By: JamesSC http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36268 JamesSC Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:52:05 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36268 I know I was agreeing with you, I know it must have been surprising :) I know I was agreeing with you, I know it must have been surprising :)

]]> By: Harry Chiti http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/2009/12/30/i-must-admit/#comment-36267 Harry Chiti Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:40:58 +0000 http://www.newyorkmetsreport.com/?p=4560#comment-36267 32. And your point is what? I said he'd be 36/37 and your explaining how he'd be 36? So again what is the point? Was my premise wrong? If he isn't 37 then it only strengthens my point. 32. And your point is what? I said he’d be 36/37 and your explaining how he’d be 36? So again what is the point? Was my premise wrong? If he isn’t 37 then it only strengthens my point.

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