How high would you go for Jason Bay?

The Mets are on the table for $65 million over four years for a good, but not great outfielder, Jason Bay.

That won’t be enough. The first proposal rarely is. Initially, I said it could take $90 million to get the deal done. Maybe I went too, high, but I don’t think by much anymore. If the Mets go for a fifth year, it will be north of $80 million.

BAY: How high should the Mets go?

BAY: How high should the Mets go?

It concerns me the Red Sox are adamant in not giving him more and have basically told him to hit the road. I’m also wary of reports out of Boston of making him a DH by the end of the contract. Do the Mets really need to be paying over $15 million a year for a couple of seasons to a broken down outfielder.

Meanwhile, those middle-tier pitchers are still on the shelf. And, they don’t really excite me that much, either. Do you overpay for Bay, or attempt to get two pitchers for the price? Or to you spread the money out and get a pitcher, a reliever and a lesser outfielder such as Ryan Garko. Maybe try to coax another year out of Jermaine Dye or again, think about Rick Ankiel?

We knew going into the Hot Stove Season the pickings were slim. Well the best are off the board and Matt Holliday is too rich for the Mets’ blood.

It’s time for tough decisions. This is where Omar Minaya earns his money.

ON DECK: Jose Reyes.

18 thoughts on “How high would you go for Jason Bay?

  1. I wouldn’t.
    Jason Bay is not the answer.
    Quality pitching is.
    You can’t have enough or too much of it.
    The entire starting rotation is a giant question mark. Investigating singing guys like Kelvim Escobar, Chien Ming-Wang or Jon Garland or trading for guys like Bronson Arroyo or Derek Lowe would be smarter.
    Only one reliever, Pedro Feliciano, is dependable to successfully get the ball to Francisco Rodriguez.
    So I’m wondering why the Mets aren’t snatching up quality relievers like ex-Pirate Matt Capps or ex-Tiger Fernando Rodney instead of drooling over a Major League-untested reliever like Ryota Igarashi — and offering him a two-year deal.
    Whoops! Sorry.
    I forgot who our GM is.
    Jeff Francouer has it exactly right when he tells Adam Rubin in the Daily News that the key to making the Mets a playoff team again is not signing a one-hundred million dollar guy for one position, but using the money wisely to plug four holes.
    What does it say about a team when the right fielder makes more sense about building the team than the GM?

  2. Gil: Rodney is looking for 3 yrs 30 mil! They already made an offer to Escobar and Wang from all reports are on the Mets radar. Regarding the Japanese pitcher, the Red Sox are their competition so i’ll take it that he is a talent. The guy that I would go after is Ben Sheets. Offer him a guaranteed contract for 5 mil with incentives that can push him into Lackey territory for the next two years. Unfrotunately from what I have read he is looking for a guarantee of 12 mil, but I can’t believe any team would guarantee that much.

  3. Since I don’t watch non Met baseball I guess I don’t have a handle on Bay. If he cannot field at all that is a problem.

    He should be at least MLB avg. Assuming he is I prefer him to the pitchers available.

    As I have said repeatedly, we need pitching. The question however is are the ones available worth anything?

    It seems that quality pitching is very expensive. No one is giving away young guys anymore. You have to draft and as we know that is not our forte.

    We got some kid in the second round from LI last year. Then we have Niese and that kid from A who only throws hard and nothing else. There was Holt, but he had problems last year.

    Suffice to say the rotation is not getting much help from within.

    A good option would be to send Parnell to AAA to learn how to pitch. But we know that won’t happen either.

  4. Heyman reported that the Mets changed the offer to 5 years for 75 million lengthening the years but lowering the dollar value per year. I said above that I would offer 5 years for 80 mil, but if 5 years for 75 mil is a “take it or leave it offer,” than I am fine with it. Also Heyman is reporting that the Mets are interested in Holliday as an alternate.

  5. 4. Dave, It says something about this organization that they havent produced one above average starter since the mid-eighties! The Mets once renowned for thier wealth of pitching have forgotten that pitching and defense win championships.

  6. 5. I hate to do this because it takes away the fun Steve O, but I agree with you on this one!!!!!!
    4. dave: After watching “golden glovers ” like Alou, Sheffield and Murphy in left the last few years, we’ll probably think Bay is a whiz with the glove!!!

  7. I would go 5 years for less money or 4 years for a bit more money with maybe a high vesting option with a low buyout. Then let Bay decide, but like any good negotiator you have to truely be willing to walk away from the table if you are going to get a good deal. If Bay holds his demands where they are then I can walk away, will Omar :)

  8. 7. Steve, By produced, I mean a player who actually pitched for the Mets. Even if you count those 2 thats 2 in 25 years, not exactly great.

  9. 9. TMS, These statistics are confusing. They have his UZR as next to last, which implies he has no range, but he had the 2nd highest amount of putouts in the group. I also see 15 assists and no errors. Maybe he is getting a bad rap. They have Carlos Lee way ahead of him and that tells me something is wrong right there. Johnny Damon who has no arm at all is also rated higher.

  10. Ray (12): Remember when the Big Three fizzled out? You’re right. Nobody of real quality since Doc. … Also, I wouldn’t say Kazmir has lit things up, either.-JD

  11. The Mets aren’t signing Bay for his defense. They are signing him for his bat. But, in the interest of fairness, I wonder how much Fenway Park would influence his defensive numbers. Assists would likely go up because of the shorter throw from left.-JD