Mets meeting with Wolf’s agent ….

The Mets are meeting today with the agent for left-hander Randy Wolf. Could be posturing on Wolf’s part, as he wants a three-year deal. Not sure if the Mets want to go that long with him. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel is reporting Wolf is talking to the Brewers about a three-year deal in the $28 million range.

The Mets are also expected to meet with John Lackey’s agent before the meetings break up.

31 thoughts on “Mets meeting with Wolf’s agent ….

  1. Like Dunn, like Abreu, like Hudson, like others, Wolf was a great deal a year ago. You sign a Wolf, you can trade a Maine or a Pelfrey for a bat, give Niese the 5th spot and have the always at the ready Nelson Figeroa in Buffalo to come up and replace whomever gets hurt first.

  2. Looks like Granderson to the Yanks is a done deal with the Yanks surrendering Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, and Phil Coke. Looks to me like the price of Roy Halladay dropped as I think the Jays would have required Jackson back in the deal.

  3. we need 2 #3 pitches.

    what will we get from maine/pelf/ollie? who knows? johan had surgery for the second year in a row.

  4. 3. So with the Yanks getting Granderson will they say bye bye to Damon? As for Halladay, I think the Yanks are happy with only one old pitcher, and he’s Pettite.

  5. Halladay is 5 years younger than Pettite. Not a fair comparison. I just don’t think that they would include Hughes. So let’s think about it…Dodgers won’t surrend Billingsley, Yanks won’t include Hughes, Red Sox won’t include Bucholtz. Leaves the Mets waiting in the weeds to pounce on Halladay. Niese/Parnell/Nieuwenheis for Halladay!

  6. #1,#2, Yes they were great deals a year ago, but they still would have wanted the additional money this year so we still wouldn’t have wanted them to stay.

    And Hudson was a TERRIBLE deal last year for the Mets because it would have required us to dump Castillo’s contract for a no-value player like Jones either adding salary at the time AND adding Hudson’s salary.

  7. Harry (5): Getting Granderson doesn’t preclude bringing back Damon. It’s still an either/or situation with the Yankees in left field with Damon/Matsui.-JD

  8. Steve (6): I think it’s premature to write-off the Halladay deal to the point where he’ll fall to the Mets. That’s going to play itself out for several more weeks, at least. Remember, Santana was done in January. Likely the same with Halladay. … I’d be shocked if he goes to the Mets. I don’t see him giving up the prospects or the money.-JD

  9. james(7)

    if we had gotten wolfe last year he would be one of the top pitchers on the team today. who is to say we would not want him?

    who is to say we would not have given him 3 years 36?

  10. 6. Like I said earleir, a guy who will demand a 6 year deal who is already in his 30’s? No thanks. He’ll be a star for 1,2 years and then we’ll be stuck with a deteriorating guy making over 20 mil a year the last 4 years. At least the Yanks get Pettitte one year a t a time and only pay half of what a 39 year old Halladay will be making.
    7. James… Explain why would it have been impossible for the NYMETSies to not just let Castillo go if they thought he was so bad? Why was it easy for the Detroit Tigers to release Sheffield and give him 14 million dollars? But its not all right for the Metsies to get rid of Castillo? Why was it all right for the Phillies to release Adam eaton when they owed him about 12 million dollars. If the Mets thought Castillo was so bad they should have admiutted their error and released the guy. To defend them their inaction when other teams do it without a problem is pure baloney. It is another example of a horrid organization. And the othere deals wouldnot have been horrible iof the Metsies would have done what the Natsies did and give a guy like Dunn more than one year. I know itslike brain surgery for the Wilpons and Minaya, but why do you buy every one of their moves as perfection?
    8. If they dump Damon and Matsui they can buy Bay or Holliday, pay for Granderson and not raise payroll, or they can keep Melky and and dump the two and brag to the baseball world they understand economics!!!!!!
    10. Id the Metsies had done what you say, Omar would have been a genius. He would have passed on Lowe and Ollie and gotten a guy who earned his pay!!

  11. 7. A couple more thoughts about this bogus Met lie about not being able to get a second baseman until they dumped Castillo. If the Dodgers had that attitude in ’08 they never would have gotten Manny Ramirez because they couldn’t unload a much more hideous contract belonging to Juan Pierre. No Manny, no playoffs for the Dodgers in ’08. If the Angels had that same attitude as the Mets they never would have gotten Torii Hunter because they had the super duper looper hideous contract with Matthews Jr. Think you see the Halos in the post season with that marquee player Matthews starting 150+ games. The Mets have a small market mind set or they just spew buil knowing a certain % of their fanbase will buy any line being we are so desperate for a winner.

  12. 12. Speaking of Matthews Jr., He is the latest bum being rumored to be traded for Looie. I think Looie must have got caught kicking Omars dog or something.

  13. #10, you would want to give Wolfe 3 years 30 million? If so why not give it to him today, there is no way I would want Wolfe for 3 years 30 personally so I am glad Omar is backing off of him.

    #12, Of course they could have just kept Castillo on the bench and signed Hudson last year, and that would have been an god awefully terrible move. We would have discarded 6 million dollars languishing on the bench and now Castillo actually has some value and isn’t any where near as bad of a contract. All for a player that was replaced by a scrub for a playoff team down the stretch.

    Exactly how is it a “mistake” that we didn’t do that?

  14. Also, I would point out that all those examples you gave, the teams put up with the player for a lot longer than one injured year before just dumping him.

  15. 14. No, James, that would have been the kind of move a championship caliber organization makes. The Mets made the kind of move that one would wexpect of the Kansas City Royals. Are you telling me the Mets are a small market team? If so, I suggest the Wilpons move the team to Omaha where expectations would be understandably small.
    As for wolfe and 3 years. Ledts see, this is the organization that, bidding against well, they were bidding against the NY Mets, gave OP 3 years at 12 million per. So if they would have given Wolf 3 years last year, it would have been for less than 10 mil per and they would have been in a heck of a lot less of a mess this Winter. P{lus Wolf is not an old pitcher liuke Lowe was last yeaer. He will be only 34-35 at then end of a contract the Mets could have given him at the end of last year. You weren’t one of the guys wanting the Mets to take Lowe for 4 years and have him at 39 I hope. You are also implying that the Mets were smart in keeping Castillo because he had a good year. Look over the scribes and blogs. The Mets kept Castillo because they couldn’t find a partner and they don’t have the big market mentality of the true big market teams. And you criticize Hudson as a mediocrity, which I agree with. Howeever, who will the Metsies be going after if they trade Loooooeeeeee now. Why, none other than Orlando Hudson becuase they have nobody ready to take his place because the METSies farm is in the same state as the rest of the organization.
    PS: Di you hear the great manager on MLB last night? He wants his pitchers to throw strikes. Did he not care last season? They all need to go and get some real baseball people in here.

  16. 15. You are correct James. They put up and they were in the playoffs (except the Tigers who improved greatly without Sheffield)

    PS: I really like debating with you James. Die hard and true to your thoughts.

  17. 14 James, Since Wolf took 1yr and 5mm from the Dodgers last yr, it is logical to assume that he would have happily took 3yr and 18 from the mets which is exactly half of what Omar gave to the next koufax.

  18. #16, Ok, so because Omar was looking for someone to take the contract it was therefore also a good idea to simply dump the contract and sign another player as “equally useful” to the team. That is a false analogy. Because Omar was seeing if he could move the player because of the risk after the first year is very different than saying it was a good idea to simply cut him and eat the 18 million dollars.

    Also, a HUGE difference between Castillo and Sheffield is the clubhouse factor, Sheffield was both a weight on the team contract wise and a clubhouse cancer. Castillo was a bad contract that could still play and had reason for optimism if maybe not enough to warrant his contract. Sheffield had little reason for optimism and was throwing fits in the clubhouse about his role on the team.

    So I don’t see how it was a bad cost decision considering it ended up working out. You have used a few times that GMs get paid for the end results not for what was a good decision at the time, so how does that fit into this argument.

    As for Jerry Manual, I agree 100% on that side, there is no way I wanted him back for next year. I understand the idea that he didn’t have the parts to get the job done last year with all the injuries, but you can’t excuse the complete lack of fundamentals nor the tie to the previous failures on this team after the past year and a half. Jerry should have been gone.

    PS. I like debating you as well and it has made this site one of my favorites. I also very anti-Lowe last year for the contract we gave him, but I would have been horrified if we gave 36 or so mil to Wolfe as well. OP was overpaid but at least at the time it looked like he had upside, he had pitched well in a number of key situations against the Braves/Phils and had reason for optimism last off season and is a young lefty. Lowe would have been a huge mistake as Atlanta I think will find out very quickly.

  19. #19 I disagree 1000% that because he took 5 million for one year he would take a similar terrible salary for 3 years. He took the one year because he felt that he could wait till next year and make the money he wanted to make. Now if we wanted to give him 3×30+ he probably would have, but there is no way you get him at the same discounted rate for 3 years that way. There is a reason why all those talented players signed 1 year deals at the end of spring last year. They wanted to wait to get proper money this year.

  20. 21. He took the one year because that was his only offer.Every players situation is different. Wolf had a lot of injury questions last year and might have elected to take the offer that gave him the most job security. I remember a lot of people on this board didnt want him at all. Even after his very good year last year, he is still not going to get 10mm a year.

  21. since he is supposedly getting 3/28 that is not that far off, and there is always a premium to play in NY.

    And if Wolf had another injury plagued year instead the 3 years would have been a huge benefit?

  22. 23. Thats the point of a longer deal. Security for the player, risk by the team. The market for pitching this year was set by the cardinals giving a guy like penny, who was released last yr a 7.5 1 year deal. I think the brewers are overpaying for Wolf, as much as i like him. Every other pitchers price just went up.

  23. James: I actually supported signing OP last year as well. OP was definitely a guy who should have gotten a one year deal tp prove himself however. I agree the Mets couldn’t have given Wolf 3×5 year deal but they could have gotten him for 2×7 or 3 x7 or 8. When healthy he has always been very steady, something OP looks like he’ll never be. Unfortunately, for Mets, the market is now exploding and guys like Marquis are drooling. I just hope Minaya doesn’t outbid imself for Moiina and give him more than a year. Until the day that Joe Mauer signs with the Twinkees, I don’t give any catcher a multi-year deal.

  24. 25. Much as I hate them, I have to admire the bankees. They got granderson for 2 non prospect pitchers and a minor league outfielder who hit 4 HRs last year. Then they re-sign Petitte for 1yr 11mm. Meanwhile we have Omar fumbling around.

  25. #26 I actually think the Tigers are the biggest winners in that deal. Max Scherzer, two quality reliever prospects and Austin Kearns is a pretty good package for that team that will get them into pretty good shape quickly. If we could turn Beltran + Maine into a similar package I would be pretty darn stoked.

    I am curious about Granderson going forward, last year was a bizarre year for him he was like the anti-Wright having a terrible OBP & BA and high HRs (in a fairly big park). Yankees will love having him and his fantasy value just took a step up but I am curious to see if his BA/OBP recover which is key to his game.

  26. Of course, I am really big on Max Scherzer, I love the kids stuff and he has some good big league experience I think he could turn into a #1 in the next couple years.

  27. #25 I would hate the Yankees getting Joe Mauer unbelievably and would be ecstatic if we got him.

    Even if we do plan on Joe in 2011 (how nice would that be), Molina for 2 years still has no issue to me. Molina could be moved if he has a 5/6 year deal for 2011 if we did plan on bringing in Mauer unless he has something catastrophic happen in 2010. And if not then Mauer/Molina could platoon with JM getting time at first with Ike Davis.

  28. 27. James, you gotta be kidding. Scherzer has promise but the rest of those guya are fringe players at best. Beltran is the best centerfielder in the game. Maine has done a lot more at the major league level than Scherzer.