METS CHAT ROOM: Game #157; Pelfrey gets the ball.

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Mike Pelfrey should get one more start after tonight, and it would be fitting one of the most disappointing Mets would start the final game of this most frustrating and disappointing season.

Pelfrey (10-12, 5.08 ERA) last faced the Nationals, Sept. 18 at Citi Field, and lost, giving up five runs in seven innings. He’s 1-2 in three starts with a 4.12 ERA against Washington this season.

Pelfrey seemed poised for a breakout year after taking a step forward last season, but regressed in so many ways in 2009. He unraveled and was prone to the big inning. He lost focus and concentration numerous times. He was inconsistent with his secondary pitches.

He was anything but a No. 2 starter. Actually, his record indicates he wasn’t even a No. 5 starter. Manager Jerry Manuel said Pelfrey is in next year’s rotation, but that’s because there’s nobody better to replace him with.

Here’s the line-up that will try to give him enough runs to dig Pelfrey out of whatever hole he puts himself into:

Angel Pagan, LF
Luis Castillo, 2B
David Wright, 3B
Carlos Beltran, CF
Daniel Murphy, 1B
Jeff Francoeur, RF
Brian Schneider, C
Wilson Valdez, SS
Mike Pelfrey, RP

This post was written by John Delcos

56 Comments so far

  1. John Delcos September 29, 2009 6:59 pm

    If I had to pick one, I’d say Pelfrey’s year was the most disappointing of the Mets. Perhaps even more than that of David Wright’s.-JD

  2. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 7:06 pm

    John (1) That’s a pretty strong statement from you.

  3. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:09 pm

    Annie (2): I’m writing Wright’s season off as just a bad year. I had a lot of expectations for Pelfrey to step up and continue his progress. He was just a bust this year.-JD

  4. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 7:15 pm

    John (3) I’m glad you’re giving David the benefit of the doubt, he surely has had a bad year in many ways, but the concussion was too much for him, I believe. David has really been great for the Mets off the field, much like Derek is for the Yankees.
    In fact, the two are friends.

    Pelfrey – is just wasting one oppourtunity after another.

  5. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:26 pm

    Annie (4): Pelfrey needs an adjustment, and quickly.-JD

  6. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 7:31 pm

    John (5) I know there are all kinds of pitchers, and there are catchers who have to deal with them. Does Pelfrey have a brain?

  7. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:34 pm

    Annie (6): That’s kind of cruel. He has some concentration issues.-JD

  8. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 7:35 pm

    Good for David, that’s more like the real David Wright.

  9. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 7:37 pm

    John (7) I didn’t mean to be cruel. There are some very cerebral pitchers, and others who just get up there and throw – that was my point. Know what I mean?

  10. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:38 pm

    Annie (9): I got you now.-JD

  11. TMS September 29, 2009 7:41 pm

    Wright wasn’t doing that much better before the concussion. His average was higher but still very little power, so I don’t think the concussion is the reason for his disappointing season.

  12. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 7:48 pm

    John (10) Thanks.

  13. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:52 pm

    TMS (11): I don’t either. He was a mess before he got plunked. It was as if this season his entire approach was as if he had a concussion. He has been in a fog all season.-JD

  14. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 7:53 pm

    TMS (11) Concussions often have mysterious repercussions for the patient. Any brain injury needs to be very carefully watched for abnormal reactions. The Mets went through this with Church – remember?

  15. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:53 pm

    What we’re seeing now is what has been Pelfrey all season. He’s sailing. Then gives up a hit and now has two on. He’s had problems all year in putting away hitters and innings.-JD

  16. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:54 pm

    Annie (14): You’re right, but the point is Wright was having a miserable season before the beaning.-JD

  17. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 7:56 pm

    John (13) There could also be family issues or illness etc. Some people don’t carry them onto the playing field – others do.

  18. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:56 pm

    OK, Pelfrey regrouped there. That’s a good sign. The way this year has gone for him you need to take all the positives when you can.-JD

  19. John Delcos September 29, 2009 7:58 pm

    Annie (17): We likely would have heard of it if that was the case. I just think he’s had a bad year. If he were distracted by something off the field you’d think his average would be impacted, also. That hasn’t been the case. His approach was screwed up from the start. He let hitting in Citi Field get in his head.-JD

  20. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 8:00 pm

    John (16) To change the subject a bit – Michael Irvin, former Dallas Cowboy and current Hall of Fame members will be on TV again tonight sometime between 9PM and 10PM on ABC – just in case you want to see him and the others who are ‘dancing’. It’s a very strange program, but very colorful.

  21. John Delcos September 29, 2009 8:01 pm

    Annie (20): Sorry, I’ll pass. I have no interest in that stuff. I’d rather watch a bad Mets game than that.-JD

  22. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 8:02 pm

    Correction – it’s ‘member’ not plural.

  23. TMS September 29, 2009 8:04 pm

    I saw a clip from that show of Tom DeLay the former congressman from Texas on The Soup. Pretty funny watcing him dance.

  24. Jeff M. September 29, 2009 8:04 pm

    I’m not watching the game. I’m also not watching the dance show. Let me know if anybody scores on either one.

  25. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 8:06 pm

    I understand, but I did want you to know that Jim B’more filled me in on Michael Irvin. Incidentally, my brother wanted to know if there was a Manhattan Grille restaurant in Manhattan – I sure don’t know, do you?
    This isn’t a bad Mets game – so far.

  26. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 8:07 pm

    TMS (23) He’s lucky he got the gig – he’s under a Congressional indictment and is no longer in the Congress. ‘Dancing’ pays these ‘contestants’ big bucks to appear.

  27. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 8:09 pm

    Hi Jeff (24) I’m not watching the game either, I’m listening to it on WFAN, but I am watching the Yankee game.
    How did you make out with the wisdom tooth?

  28. John Delcos September 29, 2009 8:15 pm

    Jeff (24): Mets lead, 3-0. You’re missing a good game by Pelfrey. They don’t happen too often.-JD

  29. John Delcos September 29, 2009 8:16 pm

    I can’t explain why, but I’m hoping the Braves catch the Rockies. Won’t be easy. They pretty much have to run the table.-JD

  30. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 8:17 pm

    John (28) You know, these past few games have been pretty good…I felt sorry for Figgy yesterday…

  31. John Delcos September 29, 2009 8:20 pm

    All of a sudden, Pelfrey is in a tight spot.-jD

  32. dave September 29, 2009 8:28 pm

    why is his ball up and flat?

  33. John Delcos September 29, 2009 8:29 pm

    FIFTH INNING: And, now the game is tied. This is the spot in the game where Pelfrey usually unravels. He’s ahead of Dunn now.-JD

  34. dave September 29, 2009 8:38 pm

    this is the spot in the game all the pitchers fall apart.

  35. John Delcos September 29, 2009 8:39 pm

    dave (32): His command isn’t as sharp as it was earlier in the game.-JD

  36. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 8:40 pm

    Dave (34) It seems that way, doesn’t it?

  37. John Delcos September 29, 2009 8:45 pm

    Wright made the same kind of fielding misplay last night.-JD

  38. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 9:09 pm

    Let’s hope the Mets can break the tie, here

  39. dave September 29, 2009 9:21 pm

    is green signed for next year?

  40. TMS September 29, 2009 9:24 pm

    That was ugly.

  41. TMS September 29, 2009 9:24 pm

    The flip by Hernandez that is.

  42. TMS September 29, 2009 9:25 pm

    Uggh! Not to be outdone.

  43. Jeff M. September 29, 2009 9:25 pm

    I wasn’t watching the game, but I came back and put it on. First thing I see is my “favorite” Green come in. Then I see a leadoff walk. Then I see an error. And I just saw the ball go into the dugout and the lead run score.

    And I was wondering why I hadn’t put this on before?

  44. dave September 29, 2009 9:26 pm

    that was our gold glove 2b.

  45. dave September 29, 2009 9:27 pm

    i am sure jerry will comment it is just one of those things.

  46. Jeff M. September 29, 2009 9:28 pm

    Annie (27) The antibiotics seem to have taken care of the wisdom tooth problem, at least for now. But thanks for remembering.

  47. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 9:33 pm

    Jeff (46)
    You’re welcome.
    It’s a strange evening in the world of baseball, even the Yankees and the Red Sox are losing.
    After this game is over, I think I’ll put the IPod on and finish my trashy novel.

  48. Annie Savoy September 29, 2009 9:42 pm

    Howie has put this poorly played game “In the Book” where you can re-visit all the mistakes by the Mets who were 3 runs ahead until the 5th inning.

    Final Score: Nats 4, Mets 3

    Game Tomorrow Afternoon 4:35PM

  49. Jeff M. September 29, 2009 9:43 pm

    Wow, what a dramatic ending. Does that propel the Nats into the playoffs?

  50. Jeff M. September 29, 2009 9:44 pm

    I’m kidding. Ha ha ha.

  51. John Delcos September 29, 2009 9:54 pm

    After a good showing in Florida, the Mets now can’t go home with a winning road trip. They lost two to the worst team in baseball. Sometimes, I wonder of the two teams which is really the worst.-JD

  52. dave September 29, 2009 10:01 pm

    bobby o gave a nice critique of pelf.

    he said his arm dropped a little which causes the ball to go flat and hi.

    he also repeated that he needs to throw his other pitches. how it helps to find your main pitch or just to keep the hitters off balance.

    he said he is convinced pelfrey is this close. but he has to throw something other than the fastball.

  53. Harry Chiti September 29, 2009 11:02 pm

    49. What that catch showed was a guy who was nothing but trouble showing his team that he’s now a baseball player willing to do anything to win the most meaningless game. How many Mets have shown that attitude down the stretch?

  54. jim bmore September 30, 2009 2:44 am

    missed the game…read about it..mets play with 0 fundamentals..we and they cant wait for this nightmare to be over

  55. Harry Chiti September 30, 2009 6:28 am

    54. Ray Kinght’s comment about the game. “The Mets play like the Nats usually do.”

  56. John Delcos September 30, 2009 7:27 am

    Harry (53): One. Jeff Francoeur. That’s why I like him.-JD

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