METS CHAT ROOM: Game #20; Delgado sits again.

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Carlos Delgado will sit out tonight’s game against Florida with a sore hip, and Jerry Manuel said he’ll sit tomorrow, also. It’s obvious he wants him fresh for this weekend in Philly.

Also sitting will be second baseman Luis Castillo with back spasms. No word on if he’ll play tomorrow.

Here’s tonight’s line-up:

Jose Reyes, SS
Alex Cora, 2B
Carlos Beltran, CF
Gary Sheffield, LF
David Wright, 3B
Ryan Church, RF
Fernando Tatis, 1B
Omir Santos, C
Livan Hernandez, P

This post was written by John Delcos

127 Comments so far

  1. John Delcos April 28, 2009 5:35 pm

    The Mets released Freddy Garcia today.-JD

  2. Ray Sadecki April 28, 2009 6:06 pm

    So long, Freddie. If Livan bombs again, he will be gone next. I cant believe Shef is hitting cleanup. This is not good.

  3. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:07 pm

    Just curious… what is the average age of this lineup?

  4. John Delcos April 28, 2009 6:13 pm

    Jeff (3): Not sure, but Cora, Sheff, Livan and Tatis and Church makes it close to 30 if not over.-JD

  5. John Delcos April 28, 2009 6:15 pm

    Nice first by Hernandez. He needs to work quickly and fall into a pace.-JD

  6. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:25 pm

    Does Sheff hit one out here?

  7. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:26 pm

    OKAY! I’ll take a triple and 2 runs! Even if Sheffield is doing what Wright’s supposed to…

  8. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:27 pm

    Well, there you go. Sheffield was on 3rd; Wright couldn’t handle the pressure.

  9. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:29 pm

    Two on for Tatis. Can he come through?

  10. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:31 pm

    No, he can’t. Is a 2-run lead enough for Livan?

  11. John Delcos April 28, 2009 6:33 pm

    Jeff (10): No.-JD

  12. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:34 pm

    4 straight balls? Yeah, I’d say not.

  13. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:40 pm

    So far, so good.

  14. John Delcos April 28, 2009 6:43 pm

    Santos has made a good impression. He’ll force them to make a decision once Schneider comes back Friday.-JD

  15. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:46 pm

    It’s definitely Santos’s week.

  16. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 6:49 pm

    John (14) What are the options for Santos?

  17. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:49 pm

    Nice! An RBI. And a steal by Cora. Mets are actually playing ball!

  18. John Delcos April 28, 2009 6:50 pm

    Jeff M (17): It almost makes one wonder why they can’t do that all the time. … Santos has options remaining.-JD

  19. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 6:51 pm

    And John, when you answer Annie, could you explain something else? Didn’t the Mets used to carry three catchers not that long ago? What has changed?

  20. John Delcos April 28, 2009 6:58 pm

    Jeff M (19): I thought three catchers were too many. Still do, especially since Tatis is your emergency guy. I honestly don’t know what they are going to do when Schneider comes back.-JD

  21. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 7:00 pm

    Good thing that ended when it did. Livan has thrown 45 pitches through 3… will he last 6?

  22. John Delcos April 28, 2009 7:03 pm

    Jeff M (21): They need him to. The only way they are going to get on any kind of roll is if they get a string of good starts.-JD

  23. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 7:06 pm

    At least Wright is making progress…now he strikes out with nobody on base, too.

  24. John Delcos April 28, 2009 7:12 pm

    Oooooops.-JD

  25. John Delcos April 28, 2009 7:29 pm

    The offense has gone to sleep. Yawn.-JD

  26. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 7:32 pm

    Livan has now thrown 75 pitches – wonder how much longer he will be in….

  27. John Delcos April 28, 2009 7:34 pm

    Annie (26): Another inning.-JD

  28. John Delcos April 28, 2009 7:38 pm

    Some guys don’t like to bunt because they consider it a wasted at-bat. I hope Reyes doesn’t fall into that mindset.-JD

  29. jim bmore April 28, 2009 7:39 pm

    cora gives good, solid ABs

  30. jim bmore April 28, 2009 7:40 pm

    JD- team gets up and all of a sudden the bats disappear..i know nolasco is good but they need more ABs like Cora’s here…long..make him work

  31. John Delcos April 28, 2009 7:42 pm

    They need to tack something on. Three runs isn’t going to win this thing.-JD

  32. jim bmore April 28, 2009 7:42 pm

    come on gary.

  33. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 7:43 pm

    John (37) I’d like to see the Mets win this one, but I’m not sure they will. Incidentally Francesa interviewed Jerry Manuel this afternoon and they were so chummy it seemed as though they were related.
    Are you watching the game at the Boston Garden, too? Close, very close.

  34. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 7:49 pm

    David Wright is overdue for hitting like this.

  35. John Delcos April 28, 2009 7:49 pm

    A two-out hit with RISP. Huge at-bat. Maybe they’ll stop the game and give him the ball.-JD

  36. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 7:53 pm

    John(35) Of course they will :)

  37. John Delcos April 28, 2009 7:59 pm

    A good outing by Hernandez. They needed something like this from him. And, with Santana going tomorrow, they could have three solid starts in a row.-JD

  38. dave April 28, 2009 8:02 pm

    game 20 already? wow

    It is good to see our #5 having a good game. I wonder is Jerry hitting the right buttons? He talks about changes and our pitchers start having good games. I hope Delgado gets hot again.

  39. dave April 28, 2009 8:03 pm

    Last year he lit a fire under Delgado by sitting him a bit. Willie never had the guts to make his players uncomfortable.

  40. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 8:05 pm

    I am in awe of Johan Santana

  41. dave April 28, 2009 8:05 pm

    Was it the throw or did the catcher give a bad target?

  42. dave April 28, 2009 8:06 pm

    I like blue.

  43. John Delcos April 28, 2009 8:09 pm

    I’m not getting a good feeling with this at-bat by Uggla.-JD

  44. dave April 28, 2009 8:10 pm

    I am really impressed by Bobby P. I didn’t think he would contribute like this so early.

  45. John Delcos April 28, 2009 8:12 pm

    dave (44): He’s throwing gas. Doesn’t get rattled.-JD

  46. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:12 pm

    well done bobby. come on O..tack on runs are needed

  47. dave April 28, 2009 8:13 pm

    Yeah. He has good heat. That was a nice slider this at bat. In spring I was hoping he would make the team because of his fastball, but I did not think he would be this important to the team this year.

  48. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 8:18 pm

    Howie is talking about the wind tonight at Citi Field – says the winds are circling around and strong. Is it that noticeable?

  49. dave April 28, 2009 8:19 pm

    the flags are whipping pretty good.

  50. John Delcos April 28, 2009 8:20 pm

    Just like at Shea.-JD

  51. dave April 28, 2009 8:21 pm

    the pitcher must be confusing the guy at the plate for the guy at first.

  52. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 8:22 pm

    Thanks Dave = Howie doesn’t miss much. Now he’s talking about the flags on the roof blowing like crazy, and papers swirling on the field.

  53. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 8:24 pm

    John (50) yes, just like at Shea. Fog used to drift in from the outfield, too..

  54. dave April 28, 2009 8:24 pm

    the uni’s are flapping too.

  55. John Delcos April 28, 2009 8:29 pm

    Did you see where the Yankees slashed ticket prices because of all the empty seats? Mets tickets, although high, weren’t obscene.-JD

  56. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:29 pm

    awful start to the inning..leadoff walk

  57. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:30 pm

    coulda been a strike…just low i guess

  58. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 8:35 pm

    John (55) Francesa read the whole transcript of the Yankee message concerning tickets.

  59. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 8:37 pm

    49 seconds to go, BOS/CHI tied at 91

  60. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:43 pm

    awful inning from green…this is the kind of game the mets need to comeback and win

    get some good vibes in citi field

  61. edfever April 28, 2009 8:44 pm

    why do I feel like they have absolutely no chance of rallying .. three runs seems like so much… then I heard a stat the Mets havent come back from more then two down after six innings

  62. edfever April 28, 2009 8:44 pm

    second time Green looks bad

  63. edfever April 28, 2009 8:45 pm

    of course we start with an out – where they got a walk

  64. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:46 pm

    awful AB from beltran so far..big break in the wind taking it..but come on…fight mets…show some fight and get back into this game

  65. John Delcos April 28, 2009 8:47 pm

    Nice AB by Beltran there.-JD

  66. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:47 pm

    -the phillies always seem to come back and at least make it a game late…wish i could say the same for the mets..tired of this crap

  67. edfever April 28, 2009 8:49 pm

    look at that two quicks out from the worst pen in the league our great pen gives up five runs in two innings … i know there aloud to have off nights but could we substain some winning, i cant remeber the least five game winning streak

  68. John Delcos April 28, 2009 8:49 pm

    jim (66): The air went out of the balloon pretty quickly.-JD

  69. edfever April 28, 2009 8:50 pm

    they just have no b*lls you can see it this game is over – im really starting to feel like this is all this group will ever have is 500 they’ll never turn the corner

  70. dave April 28, 2009 8:51 pm

    (55)

    I was looking at the prices a little while back. I thought they were high. A family of 4 would spend quite a bit for an afternoon at the stadium.

    I can see 2 people dropping 150-200 easy even with the cheap seats – or cheapish.

    By the way, Madoff’s seats several rows back from 3rd base went for 1/2 price.

  71. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:51 pm

    Jd- you have said you dont think lack of heart is a problem…but how can you not think that has something to do with it..this team flat out doesnt score late in games when down…like i said phillies fight back it seems all the time and the mets go down in order AGAIN

  72. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:52 pm

    bad ABs…quick outs, etc

  73. edfever April 28, 2009 8:52 pm

    no if those jokers could get a 1-2-3 inning against our heart how is it that Green and Parnell couldn’t

  74. dave April 28, 2009 8:53 pm

    ed

    Green is a seventh inning pitcher. I don’t expect him to be perfect. He seems wild on occasion. He has pitched well so far, I am ok with him.

  75. edfever April 28, 2009 8:54 pm

    i paid 300 per seat for two seats upper deck for 15 games – love my seats dont fell ripped off at all- its like being in the mezz without the roof

  76. John Delcos April 28, 2009 8:54 pm

    jim (71): It probably does have something to do with it on second thought. There is something missing.-JD

  77. edfever April 28, 2009 8:55 pm

    that was his second multiple run game in a row— my problem more is with how this team presses whether its a pitcher, fielder or batter they are too tight in tight games and never come back

  78. Dan Gurney April 28, 2009 8:55 pm

    Spent my evening watching the Rangers get eliminated and I switch over to see us losing???

    Reminds me out of curiosity I used the mlb ticket site to see what a bleacher seat in Yankee stadium would run me for a game against the Halos. Ran $105 before the 15 surcharges. No thanks, Hankenstein. Is that price before or after their ticket price reduction?

  79. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:56 pm

    i was hoping the mets would trade for someone like aaron rowand to play LF in the offseason or someone known for always playing hard and not taking any bull…team lacks fire..and it is more than very frustrating as a fan

  80. edfever April 28, 2009 8:56 pm

    phills fifth straight most from behind – thats all i’d ask you give me a five game winning streak with two big comebacks and i’d probably shut up for a month

  81. dave April 28, 2009 8:57 pm

    JD

    Dunn had his 6 homer of the year, 15 rbi, 11 runs, over 300 avg.

  82. dave April 28, 2009 8:58 pm

    jim,

    we have a player like that. Problem is he only plays 1/5 of the games.

  83. edfever April 28, 2009 8:58 pm

    Stokes should be ahead of green at this point on the depth

  84. jim bmore April 28, 2009 8:59 pm

    parnell and stokes now will be pitching the 7th
    green demoted to stokes role of keeping games close after his awful showing again

  85. jim bmore April 28, 2009 9:00 pm

    dave- i agree johan is that guy…but the team needs a position player to fill that role as well.
    sick and tired of seeing the team roll over when down. absolutely sucks

  86. John Delcos April 28, 2009 9:00 pm

    dave (81): Don’t remind me.-JD

  87. jim bmore April 28, 2009 9:03 pm

    church will get a hit here…he specializes in htting with no one on it feels…he’ll slap a single somewhere

  88. edfever April 28, 2009 9:03 pm

    look at team choke – they couldnt build on there lead and the min,. there down there flat – they might as well walked off the fiedl with Cantu’s homerun

  89. jim bmore April 28, 2009 9:04 pm

    very frustrating ed but ill still support them no matter what..very sick of not seeing any perseverance or fire from this team

  90. jim bmore April 28, 2009 9:04 pm

    you cant choke if youre not that good. and right now the mets arent that good…they need to get a chip on their shoulder and refuse to lose. show some fight

  91. dave April 28, 2009 9:04 pm

    ed,

    Glad you like your package. I noticed that the games get more expensive for the teams that they feel you want to see more.

    I wonder if it is a sucky game if they will give you some sort of rebate.

    I don’t like the pricing. If you play the Phils they charge more. What if Howard and Rollins are hurt. Do they roll the prices down?

    I want to see the team and the stadium. They cut the seats by a lot and jack up the prices. I wonder if I will be able to make a game this year based on schedule and money.

  92. jim bmore April 28, 2009 9:05 pm

    why waste a putz outting…i dont get it at all…what is manuel doing

  93. edfever April 28, 2009 9:06 pm

    yeah my ticket was considered 11 dollars last night for the marlins – same ticket is 35 bucks for Second night SD and philly games … it comes out to 25 a seast

  94. edfever April 28, 2009 9:07 pm

    day game tom. why use Putz who was wild last night

  95. edfever April 28, 2009 9:09 pm

    I’ll still support them but I’m so fustrated with this group more then I can rem in the past ….. other teams were either pathetically bad, over achievers or really good…. this is a team that should be really good but wont play up to it

  96. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 9:10 pm

    Dan (78) Sorry about the Rangers – 1994 seems so long ago.

    I think all four teams – with new stadiums – have really misunderstood just how much the economy has tanked and how everyone is much more cautious about what they spend and where. The average family simply cannot afford these prices.

  97. dave April 28, 2009 9:10 pm

    My problem is I cannot plan that far ahead. If I wake up, like the game, like the day I want to show up and see the game.

    Those days may be gone unless the team sucks big time. Then there will be seats and the prices may come down too. Of course there won’t be much energy.

  98. John Delcos April 28, 2009 9:12 pm

    They got a good enough game out of Hernandez to win. Bullpen blew it and the offense went to sleep.-JD

  99. dave April 28, 2009 9:13 pm

    Maybe Reed will come up a the bottom of the inning and hit a 4 run single to win the game?

  100. edfever April 28, 2009 9:14 pm

    close game the fiedlers and pen played tighted and blew it and this team simply cant come back

    Wright was gift wrapped at least one out and then backed up for five min. instead of grabbing the ball, Green looked way too tight

  101. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 9:15 pm

    Celtics win

  102. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 9:20 pm

    John(98) I’m really starting to wonder about Jerry Manuel..

  103. edfever April 28, 2009 9:20 pm

    are they going to kill us with a rally that falls short or an easy 1-2-3 inning

  104. John Delcos April 28, 2009 9:20 pm

    Annie (102): How so?-JD

  105. John Delcos April 28, 2009 9:21 pm

    ed (103): Little resistance.-JD

  106. edfever April 28, 2009 9:22 pm

    This isnt manuel this is this group – i refused to believe in 2007, then hoped they mature through it 2008 and before the season hoped they had the pitching to coverit… simply this team deosnt have what “it” takes whatever “it” is … this is the same team for three friggin years

  107. edfever April 28, 2009 9:23 pm

    nah there done now you can tell – there making plans for after the game already

  108. John Delcos April 28, 2009 9:23 pm

    This will be a bad at-bat.-JD

  109. jim bmore April 28, 2009 9:23 pm

    no fight.

  110. John Delcos April 28, 2009 9:24 pm

    Terrible at-bat.-JD

  111. edfever April 28, 2009 9:24 pm

    rem. what we heard all off-season it was the open , the pen , the pen if we get a lead to the seventh we now win – its the pen

  112. Annie Savoy April 28, 2009 9:26 pm

    Howie has put this game ‘in the books’. The beginning was OK, but all was lost at the end.
    Santana tomorrow — day game.

  113. John Delcos April 28, 2009 9:26 pm

    Four times this year they’ve blown a three-run lead.-JD

  114. edfever April 28, 2009 9:26 pm

    1-2-3 no rally no fight 4th time this year they’ve lost a game they had a three run lead but havent come back on a team from three down after the sixth

  115. edfever April 28, 2009 9:27 pm

    always the same – i bet theres a stat out there that the Mets score the least runs of any team in the middle innings

  116. John Delcos April 28, 2009 9:29 pm

    I’m calling it a night. Thanks for dropping by. Talk with you tomorrow afternoon.-JD

  117. Dan Gurney April 28, 2009 9:31 pm

    I could just scream. Instead I’ll grab a Saranac Lake and set the computer to Vin Scully calling Dodgers vs Giants. See you guys tomorrow afternoon.

    Speaking of choke jobs, the Devils blew it in the last period and can join the other NY hockey teams on the links. I am hoping for a Carolina vs Vancouver Stanley Cup to teach NBC a lesson.

  118. Jeff M. April 28, 2009 9:33 pm

    Hi, everybody! I took some time away to watch NCIS and Fringe. Tuned in long enough during a break to see Wright get an RBI with RISP. So everything’s great, right? We won, didn’t we?

    Guys?

    Guys?

  119. kevin April 28, 2009 10:57 pm

    I can for the life of me understand why with Green struggling he wasn’t lifted for Feliciano with Baker coming up. Instead Green walks Baker on four pitches and gives up a gopher ball to Cantu. That’s just terrible bullpen management.

  120. Harry Chiti April 29, 2009 5:44 am

    Three things from my very late night viewing.

    1. Jerry Manuel lost this game. Jerry Manuel thinks games are only won in the 8th and 9th innings, Jerry Manuel put in a guy to opitch the 7th who had nothing but wildness and Jerry Manuel ignored the fact that he is supposed to have two great releivers and Jerry Manuel didn’t even have his best set up man warm up because it was the 7th inning. This Bud’s for you Jerry Manuel.
    2. Reading how pleased peoiple were with Livan is really a solid commentary on the hrrendous state of starting pitching. Being happy with a guy who can’t go 6 says it all.
    3. Releasing Freddy Garcia! Omar makes a good move.

  121. SteveC. April 29, 2009 9:19 am

    They need to toss the black from the uniforms!
    They need to leave the pitchers in from now on. the pen needs to rest.

  122. tomg April 29, 2009 10:23 am

    We all know the Mets starting pitching is weak. Championships are won by having good starting pitching, setupman and closer. The problem is the most important thing the Mets are missing is starting pitching. Another big problem with this team is the character makeup of the club. They have no leaders and the players they have have no heart or fire or whatever you want to call it. I never seen a club like the Mets score early and than call it a night. Especially when this team loses a lead in the later innings they easily die and place there tails between there legs. This team will never win a championship, never and you can all remember I said this because until Omar brings in leaders and character players it will be the same old crap. I truly believe this team needs a major face lift of the starting lineup.

  123. tomg April 29, 2009 10:29 am

    The mets bull pen is being over used again, doesn’t that sound familiar? Except for Johan the starter can’t make it to the 6th inning. I don’t care how good the bull pen is when almost every game you got to go to the bull pen by the 6th inning, the pen is being over used and exposed.

  124. SteveC. April 29, 2009 10:58 am

    so tom. let me get this right. you are complaining that once they feel they scored. its siesta time?

  125. SteveC. April 29, 2009 10:58 am

    ;-)

  126. tomg April 29, 2009 11:30 am

    (124) Hmm……. Complaining? No, just an observation and my opinion. I’m not complaining. Frustrated, absolutely to the point that I really lost allot of respect for this present met team.

  127. SteveC. April 29, 2009 12:45 pm

    Being frustrated comes with being a Met fan. ;-)

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