Rodriguez’s admission …. What next?

Alex Rodriguez surprised me. Not with the news he used PEDs, but his admission on ESPN. Yes, he denied before, but with the story out there, he came clean.

Nowhere else to run, I suppose.

How does this change things to you? Are you inclined to forgive and forget? Or, is all your energy sapped out of you by this issue?

32 thoughts on “Rodriguez’s admission …. What next?

  1. I think it’s great the he came clean but at the same time he now has a track record as a liar. He says he only juiced while in Texas but a year ago he said he never juiced at all. Were it not for the earlier denial I could forgive him for this with no more questions. But since he’s lied to us before I don’t know what to expect later.

  2. First off, these “apologies” come after said player has been caught. Not that I would admit to doing something illegal unless I was caught either, but I don’t particularly find any of them genuine.

    It’s all spin. And to look deeper, his interview with Peter Gammons was fluff. No tough questions and A-Rod still acted aloof about the steroids itself. Like the Daily News back page showed/said…you can’t get the roids he got over the counter.

    He knew exactly what he was taking.

  3. A Rod also made statements about Selena Roberts that she claims are outright lies.
    I guess that is not important or relevant.

  4. I don’t like A-Rod. Never have. He comes across as a complete phony so none of this is a surprise.

    That being said, he’s not unique in this. Someone of his stature that actually admits what he did would be doing the same thing.

    Say “I’m sorry” yet still deflect the attention on someone else or try to soften the blow in a way by distancing himself from full responsibility.

  5. I think it safe to say now that Met fans are done lambasting Steve Phillips for not getting this guy.

  6. I don’t think he came clean. He took a nice step forward in admitting some things and saying he was sorry, but I’m not convinced that his steroid use was limited to his Texas days, as he says.

    What’s more, as George Brett has noted, once A-Rod lied on “60 Minutes,” why should we give him the benefit of the doubt now?

    The GNC stuff and the allegations about Selena Roberts severely detract from his credibility on this.

  7. Nope sorry, he only admitted because he got caught and was afraid of perjury charges.
    Let’s face it, if you are I were to admit guilt of drug use there would be little forgiveness for us, out of a job we would be..

  8. Ray
    As far as Phillips goes I promise never to lambast him for A-Rod ever again.
    Of course my opinion or Phillips remains unchanged. “Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes” to quote a very old cliche.

  9. (9) Scott: Maybe true about SP, but he still remains the only GM to put together a team that made the playoffs two years in a row and put together the last Met World Series team. For that I will be grateful.

  10. Steve
    I can’t argue with that.
    Still, all in all Phillips is past history and I am tired of beating that dead horse.
    Omar gives us plenty to talk about in the present.

  11. I wish they would just reveal the other names and get it over with. I’m tired of all this, Let’s just play baseball.

  12. I am surprised he admitted to it so soon. However he was smart to do it, but really had no choice.

    From what I hear he is not sincere.

    He only admitted to the years he was outed on. He kinda denied anything else. His excuse was the pressure of playing in Texas which of course is much less pressure than playing in NYC under the watchful eye of the Boss.

  13. (7) Steve C What would he be facing perjury charges from? An interview with Katie Couric doesn’t quite have judicial might. As for confessing after being outed, is he different than any other user who’s confessed? I don’t see them stepping up to the mike and voluntary saying me too me too.

  14. Harry, well if he was brought up on charges and thought, like Clemens, he could lie and win. then guess what… The fact he was told the jig was up and not to admit now would be detrimental to his career.
    Besides i am not seeing why you have issue with my statement? picking nits again?
    or maybe you like A-Rod and think he is a super star. I have no love for players that cheat in this way. I likened LoDuca to the Kid, once i found out he was on roids, i was angry and well no longer respect his playing.

    And there endeth the lesson.

  15. (16) I disagree with what you wrote Steve. No more no less. It has nothing to do with liking the guy. If you can find me one baseball player who stood up and said I took roids while still playing and without being outed, I will retract. Ken Caminiti was long out of the game and dying and trying to warn youngsters when he made his self-confession and Canseco did what he did for self-profit.
    Three questions for you.
    1. If the other 103 names come out are you going to blast all of them?
    2. Are you going to demand all the old results be re-tested since testing can find drugs they couldn’t find 6 years ago, so some cheaters don’t get away with it unscathed?
    3. When does it stop?

  16. He should not have done it and should not have lied. But I had an experience 30 years ago lying about not using marijuana when I joined the service and years later repeating the lie to get a “Top Secret” clearance and getting caught. Nothing happened but you know the old saying about “he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

    Certainly A Rod and others should have spoken out more against PEDSlike Frank Thomas. But I also remember the abuse heaped upon Shirley Babashoff at the 1976 Olympics when she made pointed remarks about the East German female swimmers broad shoulders and deep voices.

    But A Rod is a fascinating case of supreme talent with a lot of flaws when you see him upclose. But I wanted him 8 years ago because I thought we could become the power in the NL. The Yankees haven’t done too well with A Rod but what have the Mets done in the last 8 years without him? One NLCS loss. Ultimately you can not ignore a SS/3D basemen who hits .300, 35 Hr, 120 rbi, 90 walks, 25 SB with good defense. He cheated but so did at least 103 of his peers

  17. Oh, I’m sorry…I misread your quote. I thought you said while they were still playing, not with the fact they were outed first.

  18. According to Al Leiter who was very involved in the union at the time, some players tested twice, so there are less than 103 players. Probably the ones who came up dirty did it again to be sure. You can listen to the interview on the fan.

  19. Thanks mrmet…. I feel better now. Somehow It seemed odd that Paulie did the right thing on this issue. So I can un-retract my retraction.

  20. Harry, damned straight i would blast the cheater. I am no hypocrite. If the rule says NO roids, then no roids. I will have to ask JD to help me out because I believe a player did come out of the wood work to say yeah i did it, before he was outed.
    regardless, I am glad you are so forgiving because if it were your or me in the workplace, there would be no forgiveness.

  21. (17)

    I guess it depends on what baseball wants to do.

    I think they should retest old samples. They need a punishment system as I suggested before.

    The problem is that baseball does not want to end this because ultimately the fans do not care.

  22. (25) dave, there is a punishment system; 50 games 1st offense, then 100 and then 2 years. There i no backfitting of punishment. I agree, the fans ultimately do not care. Winning is # 1. If A-Rod has a bad year the Yankee fans won’t forgive but if he has MVP year they will love him sometimes.

  23. Harry

    My problem is this. They treat this as a disease, like depression or drug dependency, not as cheating and something bad for the game.

    Whenever they decided that cheating was bad and that penalties should be levied should be the starting point for going back and retesting to see if they cheated.

    If they want to turn a blind eye, I say they should state that baseball does not honor the laws of this country and considers steroids or anything else ok. That cheating is allowed. That spitters, sandpaper, razors, corked bats or anything else is fair game.

    I think they should either be serious and treat it as such or stop pretending and just say any rules are made to be broken. Oh yes, balks should be legal also.

  24. got ya dave. and actually, if there wouldn’t have been Congressional hearings and bad press and threatened legislation what you suggest was what was happening and would have continued forever. Neother side had a problem with the roids, and I’m sure they still don’t.

  25. Exactly.

    If Congress did not stick their nose in it and grandstand for the voters no testing would be done and the penalties would be first time tell them we caught ya, second time a warning, third time a warning and a suggestion for counseling, fourth time the address of a counseling center..

    Oh yes, and Barry Bonds would be the undisputed HR king with no one to say otherwise.

  26. Balking was ridiculous last year. That one ump, forget his name but his dad is one too, which we found out later was “no good” loved to call that…

    Listen bulking up on steroids is not cheating its freakin dangerous. I liken it to corking the bat or a pitcher hiding sandpaper or a sharp belt buckle. those 86 met pitchers shame shame ;-)

    The fact that govt is stepping in, well what else do they have to do but waste our tax dollars on stuff that isn’t their business. its ROME and we are children of ROME. Rome cant govern themselves so they have to deflect and try to govern our every step.

    I say this, follow the rules or don’t play. as dave says if they want to change the rules and say these drugs are fine and the player needs it to treat injuries then so be it. if baseball says its cheating its cheating.

    So is this dead horse dead yet? ;-)